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What about these new ideas on the old lander results from the 70s?
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Brian Gaff
2007-01-10 20:56:07 UTC
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Could these results really be showing life?

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Sir Charles W. Shults III
2007-01-13 14:29:48 UTC
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Post by Brian Gaff
Could these results really be showing life?
There is still at least microbial life on Mars, but there is not and has
not been any significant peroxide in the soil. It is flat out impossible
for peroxide to exist in the Martian soil for one very transparent reason.
Roughly half of the salt they detected is iron sulfate.
Iron sulfate immediately destroys hydrogen peroxide, meaning that other
peroxides cannot have formed. The source of the peroxides is supposedly
hydrogen peroxide formed in the atmosphere through UV or electrical action.
They claim that it literally snows out on the ground when formed and then
soaks into the soil. Sorry, they are feeding you a load of crap.
Try it. Go to the chemistry department of a school, or a fertilizer
store, or anywhere you can get iron sulfate. Get some hydrogen peroxide.
Now, put some peroxide in a clear glass cup where you can see it and add
just a pinch of iron sulfate. It can be known as jarosite or melanterite or
just plain iron sulfate. Watch what happens.
Immediately, the material turns from pale yellow to bright orange brown,
and the bubbling starts. You are seeing the oxidation of the iron compound
and the release of gaseous oxygen. DO NOT USE peroxide of more than 3%-5%
or you will have a real problem. Can you say explosion?
The fact is, there is almost zero oxygen in the Martian atmosphere, so
this reaction cannot be happening- we do not see any evolved oxygen from the
reaction of this hypothetical peroxide and the iron sulfate which is proven
to be in the soil. Therefore, something is seriously wrong with what they
have told us.
So either nobody in NASA has a clue about basic inorganic chemistry, or
they are lying. There are no two ways about it. Peroxide on Mars is flat
out impossible, based on their own data. Peroxide was not and has never
been possible, as long as there was ever a slight presence of iron sulfate
salt in the Martian soil.

Cheers!

Sir Charles W. Shults III, K.B.B.
Xenotech Research
321-206-1840
Me
2007-01-13 21:08:31 UTC
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Well it must have been photosythesis then.
Post by Sir Charles W. Shults III
Post by Brian Gaff
Could these results really be showing life?
There is still at least microbial life on Mars, but there is not and
has not been any significant peroxide in the soil. It is flat out
impossible for peroxide to exist in the Martian soil for one very
transparent reason. Roughly half of the salt they detected is iron
sulfate.
Iron sulfate immediately destroys hydrogen peroxide, meaning that other
peroxides cannot have formed. The source of the peroxides is supposedly
hydrogen peroxide formed in the atmosphere through UV or electrical
action. They claim that it literally snows out on the ground when formed
and then soaks into the soil. Sorry, they are feeding you a load of crap.
Try it. Go to the chemistry department of a school, or a fertilizer
store, or anywhere you can get iron sulfate. Get some hydrogen peroxide.
Now, put some peroxide in a clear glass cup where you can see it and add
just a pinch of iron sulfate. It can be known as jarosite or melanterite
or just plain iron sulfate. Watch what happens.
Immediately, the material turns from pale yellow to bright orange
brown, and the bubbling starts. You are seeing the oxidation of the iron
compound and the release of gaseous oxygen. DO NOT USE peroxide of more
than 3%-5% or you will have a real problem. Can you say explosion?
The fact is, there is almost zero oxygen in the Martian atmosphere, so
this reaction cannot be happening- we do not see any evolved oxygen from
the reaction of this hypothetical peroxide and the iron sulfate which is
proven to be in the soil. Therefore, something is seriously wrong with
what they have told us.
So either nobody in NASA has a clue about basic inorganic chemistry, or
they are lying. There are no two ways about it. Peroxide on Mars is flat
out impossible, based on their own data. Peroxide was not and has never
been possible, as long as there was ever a slight presence of iron sulfate
salt in the Martian soil.
Cheers!
Sir Charles W. Shults III, K.B.B.
Xenotech Research
321-206-1840
Sir Charles W. Shults III
2007-01-18 19:48:28 UTC
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Post by Me
Well it must have been photosythesis then.
Look at the Pyrolytic Release Experiment from Viking. At first, it was
stated by NASA that 7 of 9 experiments showed organic matter. Then they
stated that none of the experiments showed organic matter. Now they have
changed their tune to 4 of the experiments showing organic matter.
Understand that the organic matter in question was formed during the
experiment, after nutrient material was made available. UV was filtered out
of the container so it was not the source of the organic matter formation.
Just something you may find interesting to know.

Cheers!

Sir Charles W. Shults III, K.B.B.
Xenotech Research
321-206-1840

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